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From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag)
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Subject: Re: Isolation and Unique Species
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Date: Tue, 30-Apr-85 11:37:19 EDT
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> >>>>>How could new species appear in isolated regions if they didn't evolve?
> >>>    . . . <the following is advanced by Karl as a creationist explanation>
> >>> 
> >>>>> "There is a simple explanation.  Gawd created unique
> >>>>> species everywhere, and those on the mainland mingled and mixed.
> >>>>> When we got to the islands,we found some previously inaccessible species.
> >>>>> A simple uniform distribution of created species answers everything."
> 
> >>>> [Paul DuBois]
> >>>>Hang on a second.  Have you ever actually seen this argument used?
> >>>>If so, where?  If not...be quiet.
> 
> >>> [Isaac Dimitrovsky]
> >>> OK, Paul, just what is *your* explanation of this?
> >>> I assume by your irritated reaction to the argument given above that
> >>> you have a different one in mind.
> 
> >> [Paul DuBois]
> >> No, I don't.  I meant what I said, viz. "what creationist actually
> >> uses this argument?"  No acrimony implied.
> 
> > [Jeff Sonntag]
> >     So should we just add this one to the list of phenomena which is easily
> > explained by evolution and ignored by creationists?
> 
> Maybe.  Or maybe someone could actually come up with the creationists
> who make this argument.  Or maybe someone could just admit that it's
> a straw man, and quit circling around the question.
> 
You're the only one who has been circling around the question, Paul.  We
really don't care if any creationist ever made an argument similar to the
one above.  We've just been trying to get you (or some creationist) to
answer the question.  Is that so much to ask?  In case you've forgotten
what the question was (though that doesn't seem likely since you've gone
to such great lengths to avoid answering it.), I'll attempt to reiterate
it.  This phenomena exists:  Isolated habitats often support a large 
variety of species which are found nowhere else.  There is a correlation
between the number of unique species in an isolated habitat and the length
of time that habit has been isolated.  Obviously, this phenomena is
easily explained with the use of evolution.  Can creationists explain it?
If so, how?  No strawmen here, Paul.
-- 
Jeff Sonntag
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    "Did you ever wonder ... why you're supposed to drive on a
     parkway and park on a driveway?"