Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-lymph!arndt From: arndt@lymph.DEC Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: From one piece of 'dust' to another. Message-ID: <1924@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Apr-85 11:42:49 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.1924 Posted: Tue Apr 30 11:42:49 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 2-May-85 01:25:46 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 49 Beth (JB) states: "Creationists don't usually deal with the issue of where that really unique form of life came from, and when they do they usually make wierd faces and say something like "It always existed". But they do seem to believe that life on earth came from non-life, especially if they buy the Genesis account of God creating Adam from dust (and of course, the old dust to dust stuff)." ***************8 Really neat, Beth. I'd like to meet your creationists. It would be fun to throw stones and dirt at them and watch the 'weird faces', eh? The whole POINT of 'where that really unique form of life came from' is what Creationism is all about!!! You must have missed that on the way to your conclusion. Are you saying they don't state the makeup of the chemical milk shake God made before he 'breathed the breath of life' into man to make him 'alive'? Gee, I guess you got us. But you also got everyone else! Or even the chemical soup that gave rise to 'life', eh? NO Creationists don't believe life came from non life!! Life came from the living God. Since you use the example of man from the dust I speak of the life of man. The 'life' God 'breathed'- whatever that means it meant something to the 'primative' men who first wrote it down and IS a description of some use - into man. The rest of the 'live' world is portrayed as also being 'created' by God - who used 'nothing' to make the non living, but who knows - it just doesn't say - HOW he made the 'living'. From the non living or from nothing same as the non living. In any case EVERYONE says 'something' "always existed". Bertrand Russell when asked about the world just said, "It's there, that's all." Some hold matter/energy is eternal. The Christian says God is eternal and the 'ground of being' behind which it is not possible to go. If you ask who/what caused God you ask a nonsense question since the definition of God precludes the question. Little children (around 13 according to some on the net) don't understand this but the rest do. By the way, about that 'dust to dust' stuff. Everyone says man is made of 'dust' (not lint now) and to 'dust' returns. If you don't I'll send you a box of dirt and stones and you can throw them at yourself for me and make 'weird faces'. It's just that some are more poetic about it. Can you 'buy' it, Beth? Regards, Ken Arndt