Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!ward From: ward@hao.UUCP (Mike Ward) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Polka Dots Message-ID: <1510@hao.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-May-85 23:11:52 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.1510 Posted: Thu May 2 23:11:52 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 4-May-85 08:44:06 EDT References: <1011@uwmacc.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 22 > Maybe you can't explain the increase in complexity (now). Fine. It > cannot be required that one be able to answer all questions at the > present moment. But if you say that you don't even *have* to explain it, > then I think one might reasonably object. This is absolutely true. BUT the arguments against the need to explain the evolve-toward-complexity idea stemmed from a creationist's criticism that individual species sometimes are seen to be less complex in later strata than their presumed ancestral forms in earlier strata...therefore if they evolved they evolved to less complex forms, therefore evolution is wrong. The theory of evolution must account for the general increase in complexity that is observed in the geological strata. The theory must also allow for the decrease in complexity that is often observed as counter trends to the main trend. The current state of the theory allows for both, though I have not as yet have seen mechanisms proposed for either. The creationists, of course have given no expanation of either (or are we really supposed to accept hydraulic sorting?).