Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cybvax0.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Predation, Sort Of Message-ID: <517@cybvax0.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-May-85 11:55:20 EDT Article-I.D.: cybvax0.517 Posted: Fri May 3 11:55:20 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 5-May-85 03:37:27 EDT References: <981@uwmacc.UUCP> <511@cybvax0.UUCP> <252@cmu-cs-edu1.ARPA> Reply-To: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 22 Summary: In article <252@cmu-cs-edu1.ARPA> rafferty@cmu-cs-edu1.ARPA (Colin Rafferty) writes: > > What would have preyed on the first life forms? In my sentence above, I'm > > referring to decomposing organisms such as bacteria and fungi as potential > > predators (or competitors) that would eliminate any remaining examples of > > early life forms. > > What about non-organic predators? Why do all predators have to be alive? > The first examples of pre-life were groups of proteins (or amino acids, > excuse me if I got that wrong) that were able to stay together in a > reasonable fashion. > > There were things such as rough seas and non-organic substances that could > "prey" on them. A modern example of that would be a person dying because of > exposure. There is no life form killing him, just nature herself. Of course there would be losses to the environment, just as there are today. But a substantial amount of the copmplexity of today's life can be explained (either as evolutionary adaptation or creationist provision) as ways of minimizing predation. -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh