Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site denelcor.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!mcnc!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!denelcor!lmc From: lmc@denelcor.UUCP (Lyle McElhaney) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: On the Rio Grande Message-ID: <739@denelcor.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-May-85 01:42:56 EDT Article-I.D.: denelcor.739 Posted: Fri May 3 01:42:56 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 6-May-85 01:14:40 EDT References: <251@cmu-cs-edu1.ARPA> Organization: Denelcor, Aurora, Colorado Lines: 43 > > >> When it comes right down to it, species are the only real > > >> All higher categories are based on the sub- > > >> jective judgment of specialists. > > >> One man's "genus" is another man's "fami- > > >> ly". > > > > > There is nothing to justifiy your claim that species are the only > > > "real entities". In addition, you would not classify a bacteria > > > with an elephant. The classification hierarchy is not whimsical, > > > as you so suggest. > > > > First sentence is true. The meaning of species has never been agreed > > on. But whimsey is not suggested. Lief simply points out a fact of > > taxonomic controversy. Are you suggesting that there *is* a > > classification scheme that everyone can agree on? > > Certainly not. But there is a large degree of agreement in all levels > of subdivisions. There are, of course, the "borderline" cases, but > you simply do not see biologists arguing over the proper kingdom of > gophers. Ah, but there is an agreed upon meaning of species. To quote the paleontologist Roger J. Cuffy: "Low-rank taxa - the many species known to us - have a real existance in nature, in that they consist of populations or morphologically similar, actually and potentially interbreeding individuals which live during a continuous segment of geologic time. On the other hand, high-rank taxa - those above species rank, from genera up through phyla - do not have a real existance in nature in quite the same sense that species do. Instead, higher taxa of various ranks are simply the scientists' mental abstractions by which the many species comprising the organic world are grouped according to the various degrees of over-all morphological similarity displayed. The practice has developed among modern taxonomists that higher rank classifications, which are initially based upon observable degrees of morphologic similarity between species, also should reflect evolutionary ancestor-descendent relationships among those species as much as possible." -- Lyle McElhaney {hao, stcvax, brl-bmd, nbires, csu-cs} !denelcor!lmc