Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site hlwpc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!mhuxm!mhuxi!mhuxh!hlexa!hlwpc!cb From: cb@hlwpc.UUCP (Carl Blesch) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Polka Dots Message-ID: <536@hlwpc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 6-May-85 13:50:28 EDT Article-I.D.: hlwpc.536 Posted: Mon May 6 13:50:28 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 8-May-85 01:34:06 EDT References: <1011@uwmacc.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Short Hills, NJ Lines: 24 > > They have also observed significant > > adaptive change in some species as a result of industrial polution in > > Britain, that is some animals have adapted to polution!! And > > scientists were there to watch. > > I assume you refer to _Biston betularia_ and other species of moths. > So what kind of evolution is this? Now they are changing back as the > pollution comes under control. This is an unconvincing example because > it does not demonstrate anything but a horizontal change within a gene > pool. Only a shift of allelic frequency within a population. Nothing > new, which is what evolution requires. Or does it require that? I > guess not. Not a priori. But post hoc it is seen to be a necessary > part of a theory that's supposed to explain *what happened*. This > example doesn't touch it. > I agree -- this is not proof of or conclusive evidence for evolution. But my high school biology text never presented it as a proof or a piece of evidence. It was simply an illustrative case of adaption that happened within a person's lifetime in response to environmental situations. As such, the example was used only to illustrate a concept (evolution) which, because of it's long time and subtle action, cannot be easily pictured, grasped, understood, etc. Carl Blesch