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From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
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Subject: Re: The Shame of the President:the Last and Next Holocaust
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Date: Wed, 1-May-85 12:24:33 EDT
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Posted: Wed May  1 12:24:33 1985
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> >/* cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) /  2:54 pm  Apr 24, 1985 */
> 
> >Many German soldiers were drafted; many were mislead to believe they
> >were doing something noble.  They gave their lives to defend Nazism; that
> >makes them "victims" to me.
> 
> How were they "mislead."  Some may not have known about atrocities,
> but they still knew about the nationalist goals of te Nazi gov't.
> 
> One is not noble for giving one's life for an immoral cause even
> if one wholeheartedly believes that it is right.  Nor, in such a case,
> is one a "victim," since one made the decision him/herself.
> 
> 					Michael Sykora

It's sure easy to say that when you are an adult growing up in a society
that tolerates dissent; it's a lot harder if you have grown up in a 
totalitarian society where dissenting voices were never heard.