Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!tjj From: tjj@ssc-vax.UUCP (T J Jardine) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: The students of the country care about the world (South Africa) Message-ID: <694@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Apr-85 21:21:07 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.694 Posted: Tue Apr 30 21:21:07 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 2-May-85 03:15:23 EDT References: <1102@cbosgd.UUCP> Organization: Boeing Aerospace Co., Seattle, WA Lines: 72 It is with pleasure that I hear that the students are concerned about what is going on in South Africa. I only wish that the students and the other folks who are currently expressing their concern would have the integrity and decency to inform themselves and really, really examine the issues before running off at the mouth. I have yet to find anyone, save perhaps a few exhiled "Bantu", who have experienced conditions in South Africa. I do not in any way favor Apartheid. I do not condone the actions and attitudes of the Nationalist government in South Africa. In fact, my wife and I spent two years living in South Africa. The question that everyone seems either to have missed, or that they simply ignore, is this: How does one transition from the condition in which the non-white populace currently exists to the condition which is to be desired? The last thing that one would want is to make the condition of the non-white worse than it is now. Yet those who suggest that the US companies doing business in South Africa pull out would do just that. Perhaps only a small percent of the non-white population is directly benefited by the policies of the US companies, but at least that shows what can be done and more than anything it provides HOPE. I have personally seen what US companies in Johannesburg, Cape Town, and Durban have done to improve wages, working conditions, and opportunities for non-whites. Some other facts to consider: The non-white population of South Africa is not monolithic. In fact the Indians consider themselves apart from the Coloured (non-whites of mixed racial heritage), and there are fourteen major tribal divisions of the Black African (or Bantu - a generic name equivalent to the word 'people'). While the wages and working conditions in the mines are bad compared to US or European standards, it is a significant opportunity compared to living conditions outside of South Africa. A Black African can come from his homeland; work on the mines; be provided with food, clothing, shelter; learn to read and write; and return in 5-10 years with enough saved up to live like a king in his own homeland. This doesn't justify the treatment he receives nor the enforced separation from his family. But it ought to give pause to those who believe that all non-whites are ground into the dirt. What I believe the Black African in particular, and the non-white in general, really need is to be treated with respect and dignity. Don't enfranchise them and expect that they will do anything but fall on their face. Improve their educational opportunities, remove the fear of the knock on the door in the middle of the night (it does exist in South Africa), and steadily improve their opportunities for jobs and housing. Give them the franchise, not as if they were little children, but so that they have an opportunity to learn and assimilate. Start with voting and participation in government at the village or town level and work up. Realize that the traditional values in Black African society are not the same as ours. Many of the Black African friends we left in South Africa would be glad to go to their grave knowing that their children would have these kind of opportunities. And most important of all, keep those who would foment rebellion and turmoil away from southern Africa. How can one learn to govern oneself or learn anything else with a lot of racket and noise in one's ear? Enough! I think the problem can be solved. Not overnight. And especially not as the demonstrators in the US seem to think -- by estranging the very people that they profess to help. I support the right of the demonstrators to sleep on the steps of their university library, but also ask them not to be surprised when they wake up with boot prints on their foreheads. The Afrikaner sincerely believes that he was given dominion over the southern portion of the African continent by God Himself more than 350 years ago. TJ (with Amazing Grace) The Piper ...uw-beaver!ssc-vax!bcsaic!ted -- TJ (with Amazing Grace) The Piper Boeing Artificial Intelligence Center ...uw-beaver!ssc-vax!bcsaic!ted