Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes From: carnes@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Personal defense Message-ID: <445@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-May-85 20:00:45 EDT Article-I.D.: gargoyle.445 Posted: Thu May 2 20:00:45 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 3-May-85 23:36:45 EDT Organization: U. Chicago - Computer Science Lines: 56 Some thoughts on the Second Amendment from another of the net's great constitutional scholars, Phil Lavette: >2. Isn't this another flagrant case of the court dictating legislation via > judicial interpretation rather than allowing people to exercise their > freedom to vote? How is it "dictating legislation" for a court to uphold as constitutional a law passed by an elected body and signed into law by an elected official? You tell me. > Doesn't the Supreme Court regularly change its opinions > to fit the political fads currently in vogue? No. Why should it? The justices are appointed for life. That's *why* the justices are appointed for life. But if the political beliefs of the justices reflect those of the president who appointed them, and the political beliefs of the president reflect those of the people who elected him, then a secular change in the views of the country as a whole will be reflected to some degree in changing interpretations of the Constitution by the SC. On the other hand, there could hardly be a clearer example of distorting the meaning of the Constitution to fit an ideology than the way the NRA has inscribed a carefully edited version of the 2nd Amendment on its national headquarters, as if the amendment had anything to do with the purposes of the NRA. >3. To what excesses does the government intend to go which causes it to con- > clude that it must first dis-arm the decent law-abiding citizens? Before becoming a regular reader of Usenet I wouldn't have believed that an educated person could be stupid enough to think that "the government" is plotting to commit excesses for which it must first disarm the populace. The government, not being a person, cannot have intentions, a faculty peculiar to persons, so I do not understand the meaning of the term "government" in the question quoted above. The ability to think is also restricted to persons, so the government cannot conclude that it must disarm the populace. The people who concluded that some form of gun control is desirable are the elected members of some legislative bodies, some elected chief executives, and many of their constituents. In fact the desire for various forms of gun control is probably stronger among constituents than among legislators, to judge by the intensity of NRA lobbying. So Lavette concludes that "the government" is trying to disarm the citizenry. >5. How do dictionaries written in that period define "militia"? Samuel Johnson's dictionary defines "militia" as "the trainbands; the standing force of a nation." He defines "trainbands" as "the militia; the part of a community trained for martial exercise." But the interpretation of the Constitution cannot be settled merely by reference to a dictionary, whether of the 18th or 20th century. BTW, the "militia" is also mentioned in Art. I Sect. 8 of the Constitution. Richard Carnes