Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site ratex.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!ratex!mck From: mck@ratex.UUCP (Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Sevener's Complaint Message-ID: <1120@ratex.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-May-85 16:29:02 EDT Article-I.D.: ratex.1120 Posted: Thu May 2 16:29:02 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 3-May-85 05:25:49 EDT Organization: Squids R Us Lines: 23 Keywords: albania Sevener tells us: >I would appreciate it if you would stop labelling every critique of >laissex-faire Libertarian ideology as a "strawman argument". I DON'T label every argument against Libertarian ideology as a 'straw man argument'; for example, I did not label your comments on corporate income tax a 'straw man'. So your claim that I label every argument against Libertarian ideology a 'straw man' is itself a straw man. More importantly, I never SIMPLY label any argument a 'straw man'. I indicate the difference between what a side is SAID to believe and/or claim, and what that side actually DOES believe or claim. Often it is possible to indicate that the allegations come from someone who knows better than to make his straw man; for example, in the posting that prompted your above comment, I summarized the history of an argument which has gone back-and-forth between us since I started posting. The reason that I so FREQUENTLY label your arguments as 'straw-men', is that you so FREQUENTLY use straw-men arguments. I too would like to stop labelling your arguments 'straw-men', but I believe that the proper way to bring this about is for you to stop using straw-men. Back later, DKMcK