Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site topaz.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!columbia!topaz!josh From: josh@topaz.ARPA (J Storrs Hall) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: Problems with libertarianism.:"coercion" re to jj Message-ID: <1899@topaz.ARPA> Date: Mon, 6-May-85 18:17:47 EDT Article-I.D.: topaz.1899 Posted: Mon May 6 18:17:47 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 7-May-85 21:59:51 EDT References: <485@cybvax0.UUCP> <2380007@acf4.UUCP> <515@cybvax0.UUCP> <1854@topaz.ARPA> <617@whuxl.UUCP> Reply-To: josh@topaz.UUCP (J Storrs Hall) Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 17 In article <617@whuxl.UUCP> orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) writes: >Have you ever been almost killed by somebody running a red light or >other such acts of highway lunacy? >That is "noncooperation". Without the coercion of the police to restrain >people this would be the normal state of affairs. > tim sevener whuxl!orb I'd like to cite this gem further to bolster my claim that Sevener really believes in coercion and not cooperation. Any reasonable person would fear the possibility of being smashed to bits more than the possibility of a $50 fine for light-running--anyone who believes the latter is necessary *merely believes in coercion rather than cooperation*. I (and most libertarians) believe that cooperation is its own reward, and that people do it naturally. --JoSH