Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site harvard.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!chefitz From: chefitz@harvard.ARPA (Harry Chefitz) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Israeli basketball players Message-ID: <96@harvard.ARPA> Date: Thu, 2-May-85 18:47:11 EDT Article-I.D.: harvard.96 Posted: Thu May 2 18:47:11 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 4-May-85 07:27:18 EDT References: <25356@lanl.ARPA> Distribution: net Organization: Aiken Computation Laboratory, Harvard Lines: 34 > I put the blame for this unfortunate incident on those hypocritcal > rabbis that feign orthodoxy, and then sell the soul of the Jewish > people for money. This is the problem in calling for religious rule > in the state: one is simply exchanging one corrupt system for another. > -- > bill peter ihnp4!lanl!wkp I also read the article in Sports Illustrated, but do not see where it infers that the rabbis involved where "feigning orthodoxy." On the conversion of John Irving, Sports Illustrated writes: "Irving says he was sent to a rabbi in Manhattan. The rabbi handed Irving a book entitled 'What Is a Jew?', asked him some perfunctory questions and told him to come back in a few days. On Irving's next vists, the rabbi talked to him for 10 minutes, shook his hand and said 'Welcome to Judiasm.'" Unless Bill Peter has some more information about the matter that he hasn't told us, how can he say that this rabbi was "feigning orthodoxy"? The above tale does not sound anything like the orthodox conversions I have been told about. What these rabbis did was vile and disgusting. Associating their actions with those who would like religious rule in Israel is also wrong. It is precisely because of such horror stories that many want stronger adherence to the principles of the Torah, especially in regards to conversions. -- Harry H. Chefitz UUCP: {seismo, ihnp4, allegra, ut-sally}!harvard!chefitz ARPA: chefitz@harvard