Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-athena.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!mit-athena!martillo From: martillo@mit-athena.UUCP (Joaquim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: What is Kosher for Pesach Message-ID: <201@mit-athena.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-May-85 00:58:03 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-athe.201 Posted: Fri May 3 00:58:03 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 4-May-85 09:12:42 EDT References: <1894@sdcrdcf.UUCP> <252@vaxwaller.UUCP>, <1474@aecom.UUCP> Organization: MIT Project Athena Lines: 62 From teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) Sun Feb 6 01:28:16 206 Relay-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-athena.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site aecom.UUCP Path: mit-athena!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!philabs!aecom!teitz From: teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: What is Kosher for Pesach Message-ID: <1474@aecom.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Apr-85 12:59:20 EDT Article-I.D.: aecom.1474 Posted: Mon Apr 29 12:59:20 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 2-May-85 03:28:13 EDT References: <1894@sdcrdcf.UUCP> <252@vaxwaller.UUCP> Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 26 >> > >> > Consider the following foods: >> > Flour Tortillas (usually just flour+water+a little lime) >> > Corn Tortillas (corn+water+lime) >> > Chapti (indian -- I believe whole wheat flour + water) >> > >> The lime causes the maize to swell up like a balloon before grinding. >> Is it then "leavened"? >> > > There are only five grains which, according to halacha, can become > leavened, and they are: wheat, barley, oats, spelt, and rye ( I might be > mistaken on spelt, although I think that is the fifth one ). All other > grains do not become chametz ( leavened ). However, in order to avoid > problems, the rabbis decided that any grain that is ground into flour > ( any legume ) should not be used on Pesach. > > > Eliyahu Teitz. Actually, Sefardim follow the letter of the law and permit legumes and rice as passover foods. In fact many of the foods which Sefardim make specifically for passover contain legumes and rice. Interestingly enough, Ashkenazim would be able to eat very little which Judah haNasi would have served at his passover hagadah while he would recognize very little of what Ashkenazim serve at the hagadah of passover (new world vegetables you know). Of course he would be right at home among Sefardim. The situation is even more absurd. This passover some sefardi friends of mine had a Russian Jewish couple as guests at the hagadah. Of course, they would eat very little of what was specifically prepared for passover. Since Sefardim consider comensality extremely important, such behavior is considered rude and crude but beyond this they brought their own Lubovitcher matzah which was hadash and therefore 'asur mide'oraita' until the third day of passover. > >> Susan Finkelman (415) 945-2274 >> Varian Instruments, 2700 Mitchell Dr. Walnut Creek, Ca. 94598 >> {zehntel,amd,fortune,resonex,rtech}!varian!susan > >*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** > > >