Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site wxlvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!ittvax!wxlvax!mls From: mls@wxlvax.UUCP (Michael Schneider) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Jewish Singles Message-ID: <432@wxlvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-May-85 08:38:36 EDT Article-I.D.: wxlvax.432 Posted: Tue May 7 08:38:36 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 8-May-85 06:27:21 EDT References: <1025@vax135.UUCP> <3780044@csd2.UUCP> <318@mhuxi.UUCP> Organization: ITT-ATC SRD, Shelton Ct. Lines: 30 > ... the "party" starts at 8:00; Shabbat is over at > around 9:00 on that day.... > > Now, I may be reading Asher wrong. He may simply be saying that > Singles Dances sponsered by YM/YWHA's and other non-frum organizations > shouldn't have the word "Jewish" in the title. > > All joking aside, I would like to pose the question again: > > What is the best way for non to semi-frum Jewish Singles to meet? > ( I am using frum as an alias for "fanatic") > > David Seth Green AT&T Bell Labs path: ihnp4!mhuxi!dsg The above abstract of David's posting brings forward two questions and answers. First, should a Jewish organization have activities on Shabbat? And, second, are frum people fanatics? I know a number of high ranking people in industry, education, and government who consider themselves frum. They are, by no means fanatics. They simply follow the laws of the Torah. What happens when a Jewish organization holds activities on Shabbat? For those who follow the Law, it can cause problems. Non-Jews do not distinguish between frum and non-frum, they only see that a Jewish organization holds activities at the same time a frum person says he or she is unavailable. I have had to face this a number of times; it made me look like the fanatic David mentions above - a self-fulfilling prophecy. I realize that not everyone is observant, but why should "official" organizations, seen by non-Jews as a representatives of the Jewish people, act in violation of Jewish law and cause problems for those who are observant? M. Schneider