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Subject: Re: WIZARDS
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Date: Thu, 25-Apr-85 11:21:39 EST
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From: Brenda <Joseph.Henr@Xerox.ARPA>

<< come on--what girl wants to see a movie in which there is only one
female character>>

I don't know, but this woman, for one, still considers WIZARDS one of
her all time favorite movies.  I never even noticed that there was only
one female character, scantily clad or not, until you just mentioned it.
The male/female character ratio is not something that's of upmost
important when I'm watching a movie, but there relationships, chracters,
etc. And I thought she was a pretty good character.(My best friend (an
active, ardent feminist) considers WIZARDS one of the best movies ever
made and was the one who took me to see it.)
 
 <<bad guys are Nazis...Bakshi couldn't make up his own bad guys>>
 
I feel that this is a trivialization of what I thought was a good
statement that the movie made.  The bad guys weren't just nazis -- the
point was that they had no cause to fight for and therefore, even though
they were much stronger and better armed, were no match for the "good"
side who was fighting for their homes, lives, loves, etc.  Fighting for
their leader (who didn't do a lot for them to make them brim over with
loyalty) to fulfill his kicks wasn't enough to make them stand up
against the "strength" of the good side.  They needed a strong
motivation and the use of Hitler's propaganda was a nice touch because
who ever did propaganda better for the same reasons and to the same
end??  I mean, who else could convince an entire nation to not only
allow and condone concentration/extermination camps, but fight the rest
of the world for the right to use them?  

I like the thought that the strength of your convictions can make you
strong and that lack in them makes you weak and ineffectual.  It also
frightens me to watch the power of propaganda like Hitler's, but I think
its important to remind ourselves of this fact, lest we allow something
like that to happen again.  I think Wizards did a good job of showing
both of these ideas.  

~Brenda