Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site sdcc13.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcc3!sdcc13!ee163ahe From: ee163ahe@sdcc13.UUCP (VICTOR ROMANO) Newsgroups: net.singles,net.women Subject: Re: dates (and dancing in bars and m/f behavior . . .) Message-ID: <227@sdcc13.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-May-85 14:31:57 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcc13.227 Posted: Fri May 3 14:31:57 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 6-May-85 00:23:14 EDT References: <1162@opus.UUCP> <1224@houxm.UUCP> Reply-To: ee163ahe@sdcc13.UUCP (VICTOR ROMANO) Organization: U.C. San Diego, Academic Computer Center Lines: 100 Xref: watmath net.singles:6889 net.women:4940 I think this is a survey, but decided to post it in public because it admits some things that I haven't seen anyone else admit. Am I alone on these opinions? Or am I just the only *man* out there who isn't afraid to admit them? Let me first show a small summary of articles to show some support that I am not the "sex starved" male that a lot of you will think after reading this. In article <720@rayssd.UUCP> hxe@rayssd.UUCP writes: >> 4) If women are so keen to dance (otherwise why would they be >> dancing alone, or with each other) why don't they ask a guy >> to dance? Last time I checked the calendar it was the mid-80's, >> not the 50's. >> Rick Gillespie ...!{cepu|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|ucbvax}!ucla-cs!rick > >Excuse me, but these women *are* dancing. They're just not dancing >with men. Is this what upsets you? When I go out to dance, I go >out to dance, not to meet men. In article <1225@houxm.UUCP> gregbo@houxm.UUCP (Greg Skinner) writes: >Just a short comment on women dancing with women. > >Women are pretty lucky to be able to get other women to go out dancing with >them. It is not generally accepted for men to dance with other men. If I >were to ask some of my male friends to dance, they'd probably look at me >very strangely. >It's tough on men who like to go out dancing but can't find women to dance >with them, because they are happy dancing with other women. > >Greg Skinner (gregbo) And, on to my answers to the survey... In article <1224@houxm.UUCP> gregbo@houxm.UUCP (Greg Skinner) writes: >(For guys) >Do you like to go out dancing? No. Dancing is fun once in a while, but it's usually boring. >If not, do you like to go out to places where people dance, because you can >meet MOTAS there, even though you may not like dancing or may not be good at >it? I cannot say I *like* to do that, but once in a while I go. When I go, thought, it is specifically for the reason of meeting MOTAS. Remember all those old articles that were around telling men who have trouble finding women to go to dance places? Well I do, for that reason. So why do women object when men go for this reason then? They were the ones advising it in the earlier articles. >If at such places, do you like to spend the time just watching the people on >the floor, or do you try to start conversations with MOTAS, or just sip your >favorite brew? I try to start conversations with MOTAS. Unfortunately, most MOTAS are uninterested in starting conversations with me, so I usually wind up spending the time just watching the people on the floor. I do not drink beer. >Do you go alone, or with a bunch of other guys? I sometimes go alone. I sometimes go with other guys. And once in a blue moon, I actually go with a woman or a group of women. >Assuming you like to go out dancing, do you hope to meet potential SO's where >you dance, or do you hope to make friends (I do), or do you just look for >people to dance with? All three. I find all of these difficult to do a dances. I must say that I *do* enjoy dancing *if I'm dancing with someone*. So, I am not really going to the wrong place to do what I want. >Do you find it difficult to meet people at places to dance? (I do.) Definitely. So, you have it. When I go to dances, I basically go to meet MOTAS, and hopefully potential SOs. However, I never have found this to be a very good place to go for these things. Thus, I don't go very often. Victor Romano What's that sound? What sound? Is it the piper? Do you mean Syd? No, I mean Dave. ------------------------------ We're two of a kind, silence and I. We need a chance to talk things over. We're two of a kind, silence and I. We need a chance to work it out. -AP