Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-pyrite!hayden From: hayden@pyrite.DEC Newsgroups: net.travel Subject: Americans in Paris Message-ID: <1871@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Apr-85 14:21:05 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.1871 Posted: Fri Apr 26 14:21:05 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Apr-85 07:27:53 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 58 After all of the recent discussion of Paris, I thought I would add my impressions. I was there in mid-August, and for those that do not know, August is the quietest time there because the French usually go on holiday the entire month of August and head to the Mediterranean. I was alone and on bicycle, and stayed in a campsite in the Bois de Bologne. Since I had no one to talk to or do things with, and since I had been travelling for weeks and was sick of being a tourist, I was mainly there as an observer. What I observed made me quite ashamed. It was Americans that were rude to me and to the Europeans around. It was not the French. In a few short hours, I found myself trying to avoid Americans. They would come up to me and ask directions and be exceptionally rude if I could not help them. They were the ones standing in lines complaining about the street noise that they heard from their luxury hotel rooms. At the campsite, I was the only American. What I observed of the Europeans there was real closeness, warmth, joy, and patience. They were so happy to just have the time to spend with their families and visit Paris. The campground was packed like a sardine can, the lines for showers were up to an hour long, but I did not see one European complain or even act inconvenienced. It was a real lesson for me. My general impression of the Europeans was that they were incredibly civil considering the abuse I saw Americans give them. My first experience was when I entered the city and went to a train information booth to ask directions. An older American couple was there asking for directions. They were so rude and demanding that I wanted to eliminate them. I found myself checking my clothes and bicycle and hoping that I had no telltale identification as being American. The information worker was very patient and considerate, and then treated me with courtesy that I would have found hard to muster up after that last encounter. So, I suggest that if you are in another area, wherever it be, spend some time just as an observer. Sit and watch how Americans are treating their foreign hosts, and then judge the hosts. As for your experiences, I do not doubt that Parisians may have been rude to you. But for myself, I could never criticize a Parisian who is rude to an American after what I experienced in Paris. I would also suggest that when you visit a foreign country, try to live like the natives for awhile. Stay where they stay, watch how they behave, observe their customs. From what I saw, Europeans were sensitive to customs in other countries, and tried to treat people with patience and courtesy. The Americans I met did not really seem interested in 'experiencing' the country. They were just there to tell everyone they had gone. They were loud, abrasive, arrogant, and impatient. I asked Europeans about their impressions of Americans. One French couple told me *We like them better than the Arabs* - I think that made us a *2* on a scale from 1 to 10. All of the others I met said they felt that Americans were friendly, but loud. That they were the ones you could hear across the restaurant when you were trying to have a quiet, cozy dinner. Consider that when you are in Europe trying to be overheard so you will *impress* the Europeans. I can say nothing good about the Americans I met in Europe. I would tell you where my favorite spots in France were, but I do not want to see any Americans there when I return. There is a lot of truth in the stereotype of the 'Ugly American'. Janice Hayden