Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site faron.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!faron!sidney From: sidney@faron.UUCP (Sidney Markowitz) Newsgroups: net.veg Subject: Re: Questions on the benefits of a vegetarian diet Message-ID: <291@faron.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Apr-85 16:13:04 EDT Article-I.D.: faron.291 Posted: Tue Apr 30 16:13:04 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 1-May-85 05:42:22 EDT References: <855@aplvax.UUCP> Reply-To: sidney@faron.UUCP (Sidney Markowitz) Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA Lines: 86 Summary: good books that >support these claims. There are many reasons for becoming vegetarian, health being just some of them. Francis Moore Lappe' states the case well in _Diet for a Small Planet_, as someone already mentioned. She has modified her position a bit since the book was written. There was a good interview with her in _East/West Journal_ some time ago, 10 years after the publication of her book. She said that had been overly concerned with complimentary proteins and getting sufficient protein. Further research has shown that anyone eating a reasonably varied grain, bean and vegetable diet will have sufficient proteins if they are getting sufficient calories. Lappe' said that _Diet_ emphasized dairy and eggs much more than she would now. Some of the indicators of the health benefits of vegetarianism: The lower incidence of cancer and heart disease among vegetarian Seventh Day Adventists as compared to other populations in the same parts of country; Low blood pressure and serum cholesterol levels in vegetarians studied at Tufts and Harvard Medical Schools; The _Dietary Guidelines_ released by a subcommittee of the U.S. Senate some years ago, recommending a decrease in meat, dairy, eggs and sugar, and an increase in grains, vegetables and fruit in the diet of the average American. An objective look at the evidence would not necessarily to the conclusion that you should be a strict vegetarian. As an extreme example, how much negative impact on your health would one bite of steak per year have? Two per year? So the health evidence could only be for moderation. However, if you do become vegetarian for a while you may find that aesthetics will tend to keep you that way -- Meat can get to seem pretty disgusting if you haven't had it for a while. (half a :-) ) Another aspect of the health negatives of animal food has to do with the practical side of obtaining it in this country. There has been quite a bit of discussion recently in _Science_ about the use of subclinical doses of antibiotics in livestock feed to increase weight. This common practice has now been linked to several outbreaks of food poisoning, complicated by the resistance of the bacterial strains to antibiotics. Cases of very young children in Puerto Rico developing female secondary sexual characteristics have been ascribed to the levels of hormones fed to the chickens in their diet. Pesticides and other chemical pollution are concentrated farther up the food chain. As for the positive health benefits of vegetarianism, I think that you have to distinguish between not eating animal food and eating healthily. I know of people who are vegetarian for one reason or another, but pay very little attention to what they eat otherwise. A diet of Twinkies and Coke isn't going to do much good. Junk food is junk food even if it does not come from an animal. (Besides, Twinkies is not vegetarian -- check the label.) According to Lappe', you don't have to worry about getting sufficient protein, unless you are into fasting, fruitarianism, or some such. For minerals and vitamins, I would suggest looking up the numbers for various foods and for RDA's and get a feel for how much of what kind of food provides what levels of nutrition. Then proceed to eat a varied diet with plenty of vegetables and don't worry about it anymore. There are some hints that standard nutritional "experts" don't seem to know about: A common myth is that there is no non-animal source of B-12. Check the values for tempeh (a fermented soy product) and for spirulina (an algae). Tempeh is a particularly nutritious and versatile food. The other B vitamins are a bit easier to get in the vegetable world, I believe. Also, as you check for different sources of nutrition, don't forget the seaweeds. They are generally a good source of minerals which are ignored by mainstream nutritionists. I have been impressed over the years that every time some new result appears relating health and diet, the recommended eating habit is already part of a vegetarian diet containing a varied selection of grains, vegetables, seaweeds, etc. This includes links between cholesterol and heart disease, between carotene-containing vegetables and reduced incidence of lung cancer, between lack of fiber and cancer of the colon. I'm new to net.veg, so I hope this has not been a repetition of some recent posting that is no longer on our disk. I look forward to maintaining contact with other veggies on the net. -- Sidney Markowitz ARPA: sidney@mitre-bedford UUCP: ...{allegra,decvax,genrad,ihnp4,philabs,security,utzoo}!linus!sidney