Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site spp1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwspp!spp1!johnston From: johnston@spp1.UUCP (Micheal L. Johnston) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Re: Re: gender difference Message-ID: <198@spp1.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-May-85 12:38:45 EDT Article-I.D.: spp1.198 Posted: Tue May 14 12:38:45 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 17-May-85 03:55:57 EDT References: <1743@ukma.UUCP> Organization: TRW, Redondo Beach CA Lines: 62 > > Now how do I reconcile these seemingly opposite > viewpoints? I do and always have believed it is wrong to > abort a fetus *IF* it is at the point where it could live > outside the mothers body without any extranormal support > facilities. Certainly within the first couple of months > this is not the case. After six it is very questionable. > So what do we do? We put an arbitrary limit on the amount > of time a women can carry a sometime to be baby and still > have an abortion. Are incubators "extranormal". What's your decision on pre-mature babies? It seems that would have the same rights ( or lack of in this case) as a fetus at the same gestation in utero. And what's this limit. Do I have to send someone else back to really read the supreme court decision of '73? It is legal to abort up the point of natural birth. And if there were a limit, how long would it be valid with advances in neonatology? > > I don't believe in abortion as a means of birth con- > trol, but to try and seperate the women who use abortion > that way and women who have one abortion in their lifetime, > and then allow one but not the other to have an abortion is > not a feasable posibility. So we end up with some who abuse > the priveledge, like in everything else. But at what cost? > > One of the articles I read said something about a fetus > being human. It is not human. It is simply an organism > that may someday become human. Is this like evolution? What are the qualifications for admittance to the species. I hope I've made it. Is your definiton of a human a member of the species homo sapien and isn't that defined by a charcteristic set of genes? Please. > But that doesn't say there are extremely small numbers of unwanted > children. The ghettos are full of them. Families living five in two > rooms. Women who don't believe in abortion, don't believe in birth > control are having kids. Oh by the way, they also don't believe in > giving up the child after it is born. > > It's too bad that there are children like that around, but there > are. And many of them were born because abortion was not legal in that > state, in that time. > Which statement do you want to stick with? What does legality have to do with the women you mentioned as not believing in abortion? For someone claiming pro-choice, you seem slanderous toward those that don't choose abortion. > Sean L. Gilley Phone: (606) 273-6021 or (606) 257-3092 > > uucp: {unmvax,research,boulder,decvax!ucbvax}!anlams!ukma!slg > || ...cbosgd!ukma!ukma23!slg > > arpa: "ukma!ukma23!slg"@ANL-MCS Mike Johnston