Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site sdcc13.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcc3!sdcc13!ee163acp From: ee163acp@sdcc13.UUCP (DARIN JOHNSON) Newsgroups: net.books,net.ai Subject: Re: Hofstadter on computer music Message-ID: <239@sdcc13.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-May-85 11:29:29 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcc13.239 Posted: Fri May 10 11:29:29 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 13-May-85 03:26:21 EDT References: <582@tpvax.fluke.UUCP> <195@u1100s.UUCP> <14174@watmath.UUCP> <5327@ucla-cs.ARPA> Organization: U.C. San Diego, Academic Computer Center Lines: 29 Xref: watmath net.books:1807 net.ai:2741 In article <5327@ucla-cs.ARPA>, srt@ucla-cs.UUCP writes: > In article <234@sdcc13.UUCP> ee163acp@sdcc13.UUCP (DARIN JOHNSON) writes: > > > >Ok, as a Computer Engineering major, with a minor in Music, I can safely > >assume that some type of (perhaps enjoyable) music may one day be created > >by computer. However, I seriously doubt that any great piece of music > >would emerge... > > > > ...In any event, I would predict that perhaps a > >future assignment in some university music class would be to tell the > >difference between a 'human' piece and a computer generated one. I > >would hope the entire class could get this one right. > > > > Not to get involved in a long discussion of AI and philosophy, but... > > Your assumption is that the computer would generate music by the machine > equivalent of a throw of dice. I think most people would agree that this > method is unlikely to produce great music. However, suppose we built a > machine with all the memories and music knowledge of Beethoven, and then > let this machine loose to create music by the same techniques of inspiration > and experimentation that human composers use. It might be able to create > a great piece of music AND tell you why: I didn't mean to imply that the program would be totally random, but there would have to be a tiny bit somewhere, else the input would completely determine the output. (Unless there is a new concept around) Darin Johnson