Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: I don't believe your statements about multiprocessors Message-ID: <5597@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Wed, 15-May-85 16:04:53 EDT Article-I.D.: utzoo.5597 Posted: Wed May 15 16:04:53 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 15-May-85 16:04:53 EDT References: <7202@Glacier.ARPA>, <761@mako.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 21 > >For loosely-coupled architectures there are sometimes arguments about > >reliability through redundancy, though they tend not to hold water in > >practice because of peripherals. > > There are companies who are making piles of money doing exactly this. Most > notable is Tandem. (I'm a former employee.) The peripherals in a Tandem > (and I assume, their recent competitors) follow the scheme, with performance > benefits in the case of disks. Except for some magic concerning defect > mapping, the mirrored disks have identical images... Yes, but most multiprocessor systems do *not* duplicate all the peripherals. Replication of peripherals is unusual except on systems (like Tandem's) whose major goal in life is high reliability. I think Brian's point was that "reliability through redundancy" is not a significant advantage for multiprocessors unless peripherals are duplicated too, which they usually aren't. I know that C.mmp -- one of the multiprocessor systems that Brian has worked on -- was plagued by fast-but-unreliable disks and insufficient funding for full replication. -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry