Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ames.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!ames!eugene From: eugene@ames.UUCP (Eugene Miya) Newsgroups: net.bicycle,net.politics Subject: Re: Bicycles, Violence and Hatred Message-ID: <990@ames.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-May-85 13:14:12 EDT Article-I.D.: ames.990 Posted: Tue May 14 13:14:12 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 16-May-85 06:39:55 EDT References: <988@ames.UUCP> Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 17 Xref: linus net.bicycle:849 net.politics:8357 Oh, I want to add "insensitive traffic engineers" to my previous posting. These are the guys who program the traffic lights so you see "DON'T WALK" before you take three steps into the intersection and don't give a cyclist time to pedal half way across a street. I saw a moped nearly hit a bicycle after such a sudden light change. The cars could clearly see and stop, but the moped driver coming in fast on the inside could not see the cycle. On first reflection, I thought this was dumb of the moped driver, but it was even dumber on the part of the traffic engineers in Mountain View, CA. --eugene miya NASA Ames Research Center {hplabs,ihnp4,dual,hao,decwrl,allegra}!ames!aurora!eugene @ames-vmsb.ARPA:emiya@jup.DECNET [The usual disclaimers hold.]