Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site rruxo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxv!rruxa!rruxo!vch From: vch@rruxo.UUCP (V. Hatem) Newsgroups: net.cooks Subject: Re: freezing hot water Message-ID: <186@rruxo.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-May-85 15:30:50 EDT Article-I.D.: rruxo.186 Posted: Fri May 17 15:30:50 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 18-May-85 01:43:32 EDT References: <188@sdcarl.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 42 For God's sake, you *can't* freeze hot water faster than cold water! (for the same reason you *can't* boil cold water faster!) AGAIN: Newtons (thrid, I think) Law of Thermodynamics! which, stated roughly, says that an object (substance or whatever) that has mass cools (heats) in direct proportion to it's mass and the difference between the desired temps. i.e.: a large glass of cool water, when heated, has to increase in temp until 212 degrees is attained. The same mass of hot water has a FEWER number of degrees to increase. Freezing is the same way. The mass has to give off a good deal of heat (ie the surroundings must ABSORB a good deal of heat) in order to freeze hot water. The mass will actually give off a greater amount of heat when hot, but when the formerly hot water becomes the same temp as the cool water, the speed in which it gives off the heat is decreased (that's where the difference between the temps comes in) and is actually the same rate as a fresh glass of water from the tap with the same temp! (in other words, you just wasted time cooling the hot water to tap-temperature) If you have any doubts, mail me - if I get enough replys, I'll look up the formulas in my old chemistry book and post it. Vince Hatem Bell Communications Research rruxo!vch --- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The assumption that a whole system can be made to work better through an | | assault on its conscious elements betrays a dangerous ignorance. This | | has often been the ignorant approach of those who call themselves | | scientists and technologists. | | -The Butlerian Jihad | | by Harq al-Ada | | (Children of Dune, by Frank Herbert, p395) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+