Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site we53.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mgnetp!we53!bmt From: bmt@we53.UUCP ( B. M. Thomas ) Newsgroups: net.cooks Subject: Re: freezing hot water Message-ID: <334@we53.UUCP> Date: Mon, 20-May-85 22:08:46 EDT Article-I.D.: we53.334 Posted: Mon May 20 22:08:46 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 22-May-85 01:11:29 EDT References: <188@sdcarl.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Technologies - St. Louis Missouri Lines: 22 I know I shouldn't, but... If you start with, say, 140 degree water, and want to go to 32 degrees, then how are you going to get there without going through every lower temperature in between? And if it takes a certain time to get from 140 degrees to that lower temperature(say, 45 degrees), how is it going to take less time to go to 45 degrees and then to 32 degrees than to start at 45 degrees? A similar situation exists with the boiling issue. It is very true that the initial heat gain or loss is much faster with the greater difference in temperature, but once you've gotten to the other starting point, you've got exactly the same distance to go that you had from there. My mathematical skills are not what they should be, but I don't believe that you can prove that X plus Y is ever LESS than X, given that X and Y are both positive. Nor can you show that the distance from one point to another changes as a result of whether you start from there or are just passing through. I used to run a car wash. Now the folk around there were not the great erudite sort that we are communicating with here, but when they came up with that line, and I explained it to them, they eventually listened. Is it possible that there are some things so obvious that the more intelligent just can't see them? brian