Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site wucs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!wucs!jst From: jst@wucs.UUCP (Jon Turner) Newsgroups: net.dcom Subject: Re: Packetized Voice Message-ID: <963@wucs.UUCP> Date: Sun, 19-May-85 19:23:08 EDT Article-I.D.: wucs.963 Posted: Sun May 19 19:23:08 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 20-May-85 04:41:56 EDT References: <416@wdl1.UUCP> <1294@ecsvax.UUCP> Reply-To: jst@wucs.UUCP (Jon Turner) Organization: Washington U. in St. Louis, CS Dept. Lines: 59 Summary: John Nagle writes > Packet voice seems to be one of those futuristic ideas, like monorails, > whose time has passed. > ... > The only > real justification for packet voice seems to be for high-reliability > jam-resistant military systems. > Not true. Packet voice offers two main advantages over circuit-switched voice. First, it requires less than 40% of the bandwidth, since there is no need to tie up the channel during silent periods. Second, it integrates voice and data in a single communication network. The primary beneficiary of this integration is data, since the size of telephone networks offers economies of scale that aren't available in pure data packet switches. The expectation is that an integrated packet network can bring the cost of high speed data communication down to an affordable level for residential customers. When I was at Bell Labs, I worked on a project (called the Fast Packet Network or FPN) whose purpose was to demonstrate the feasibility of packet voice on a large scale (ie. replace the current circuit switched voice network with a packet network). Many of the ideas behind this project were not new. BBN has been in this game for a long time as John pointed out. Anyway, the project was successful in demonstrating that packet voice is not only feasible, but cost-competitive with circuit-switching (something that almost no one in the telephone world would have believed at the time). Since leaving the Labs about two years ago, I've lost touch with the project and have no specific knowledge of their plans, but they are continuing to work on it, and rumor has it that they are running a field trial in California. On the whole, they've been fairly quiet about it, but occasionally some tidbits leak out. Some of the basic FPN patents have been issued recently, which has taken the lid of the publication restraints that Bell had imposed previously. I've recently written a paper describing the basic technology and giving the arguments in favor of an integrated packet network as an alternative to the much heralded, Integrated Services Digital Network. I'll be happy to send copies to anyone interested. GTE has been doing similar work using a different switching technology, which they call burst-switching. This has been described in a couple of articles in the IEEE Communications Society magazine. Burst-switching is essentially a fast circuit switching scheme in which a circuit is established and taken down for each burst of information (voice, data or whatever). It's more geared towards voice than the packet switched approach and is in my opinion less flexible, but the objectives of this work and the FPN work are clearly similar. In summary, I think it's premature to write off packet voice as idea whose time is past. Jon Turner Washington University in St. Louis 314-889-6193 UUCP: jst@wucs.UUCP or ..!{ihnp4,seismo}!wucs!jst ARPANET: wucs!jst@seismo.ARPA CSNET: wucs!jst@seismo.ARPA%csnet-relay -- Jon Turner Washington University in St. Louis 314-889-6193 UUCP: jst@wucs.UUCP or ..!{ihnp4,seismo}!wucs!jst ARPANET: wucs!jst@seismo.ARPA CSNET: wucs!jst@seismo.ARPA%csnet-relay