Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!decwrl!spar!ellis From: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.women,net.flame Subject: Re: Discrimination Message-ID: <250@spar.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-May-85 17:12:09 EDT Article-I.D.: spar.250 Posted: Fri May 17 17:12:09 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 19-May-85 08:04:51 EDT References: <354@iham1.UUCP> Reply-To: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Distribution: net Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 54 Xref: linus net.women:4639 net.flame:9104 Why do *I*, as a white adult male of Northern European descent, have to pay for what *someone else* did more than 200 years ago?... My ancestors came to this country 130 years ago from Germany and started farming...(*I*) am the *first* person of the entire clan to graduate from college, and, while life is modestly comfortable, am not what one could call privileged or powerful. So, why do *I* have to pay for something *I* didn't do? *I* didn't hold any slaves, *I* didn't force any Orientals into ghettos in San Francisco, *I* didn't lynch any black people in the South, *I* didn't put the phrase "No Irish Need Apply" in help wanted ads, *I* didn't block any women from the workplace, *I* didn't sweat any illegal aliens in unsafe working conditions, *I* didn't do any of the things people cite as the reasons for this reverse discrimination. I hadn't even been born when most of these things were happening. So why do *I* have to pay? -- Carl Deitrick *YOU* make me throw up. *Your* white ancestors intelligently came to this `land of opportunity' where `ALL WHITE MALES ARE CREATED SUPERIOR', lived decent, hard working lives, and now, *YOU*, the fruit of their expectations, have fulfilled their hopes by attaining a what probably seemed but a dream a short 130 years ago. But one reason why their dream was realized--and a large part at that-- was due to a system skewed heavily in favor of white boys like *YOU*. That meant many people's dreams went unfulfilled since the results of their labor were usurped by a system that favored *YOUR* FAMILY. That also means their offspring were less likely to go to college than *you*. Or have a good paying enginerd job and display their selfishness to the world here on the DrivelNet. So now *YOU* are complaining!! What's wrong? Do *you* want more?? We all have complaints. And if *you* listened more to those coming from the most brutally disadvantaged families, maybe *you'd* shut up. Nobody's saying *you* should feel GUILTY about today's underprivileged. Even though our society unfairly made *you* and *your* parents the beneficiaries of wealth that could have gone towards better housing, health, and education for the deprived. After all, *you* are INNOCENTLY in the possession of their STOLEN INHERITANCE. I'd have hoped that those who have enjoyed the benefits of being white might also have the generosity and good will to share a bit of their unearned wealth. *You* oughta be grateful for what *you* have received and stop complaining. Perhaps it's true that material well being does breed GREED. Pity. -michael