Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!cord!hudson!bentley!hoxna!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!gadz From: gadz@reed.UUCP (Rory Bowman) Newsgroups: net.games.frp Subject: Re: Why no renegade demons, etc.? Message-ID: <1500@reed.UUCP> Date: Thu, 9-May-85 03:13:31 EDT Article-I.D.: reed.1500 Posted: Thu May 9 03:13:31 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 10-May-85 06:31:36 EDT References: <10050@tardis.UUCP> Reply-To: gadz@reed.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Distribution: net Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 43 Summary: adventure of an assassin/paladin (anecdote) In article <10050@tardis.UUCP> lucius@tardis.UUCP (Lucius Chiaraviglio) writes: >_ > Why is it that one always hears of fallen paladins and angels, and >things once good turned to evil, but never the reverse ... Actually this has happened in a campaign I used to run. There happened to be an assassin (5th level, I believe) who had the charisma, wisdom, strength and whatever else paladins need sufficient to be a paladin. ANYWAY, he used the disguise and false identity of a paladin to join a lawful good party [yes, I used alignments, something after the recent traffic on the net I plan on giving up] and in the process of adventuring with the party (with no good intent) managed to get himself killed. The cleric with the party called on his/her god, who by a lucky roll and my kind disposition replied sending an angel, and asked that the noble paladin, who had so well served and given his life in defense of others, etc. be ressurected. I don't recall whether the angel knew what was going on or not but it ended up granting the cleric's request; ressurecting the assassin as a lawful good (1st level) paladin. The player was doubtless amused by this and proceeded to play the paladin, managing even to achieve fifth level status as a paladin and thus became a dual class paladin/assassin. It was here that the paladin decided, in view of his new alignment, to use his assassin skills for good (abandoning only poison) and make a shot at the guildmaster (of assassins). He ended up getting killed in the attempt of course, but between his protection from evil and just general cleverness he made it to the guildmaster himself and even got some respectable blows in. Another few rounds and he might well have pulled it off. In an unrelated incident I have a Champions character who used to be a demon but now works as a superhero, for what its worth. The idea of evil changed to good is a fertile one, and I'd recommend it highly. The problem of how the character deals with/reconciles/atones for their past is just one aspect. Enjoy, Rory Bowman [real world address (effective may 13): 709 West 36th Street, Vancouver, WA 98660]