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Subject: Re: Re: Why no renegade demons, etc.?
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Date: Fri, 10-May-85 13:59:43 EDT
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> In article <10050@tardis.UUCP>, lucius@tardis.UUCP (Lucius Chiaraviglio) writes:
> > _
> > 	Why is it that one always hears of fallen paladins and angels, and
> > things once good turned to evil, but never the reverse; and why is it that
> > one always hears of things born evil that can never be converted to good or
> > made good by good upbringing?
> > 
>   Ok, with a change-alignment magic item, this is a very reasonable
> assumption.
> 
> Darin Johnson
> CD  (chaotic dippy)

*** This blob of UltraChaos was once a Lion ***


	Well...

	Demons are spirits of evil controlled by greater spirits of evil.

	Angels are spirits of good give FREE WILL by the greatest spirit
	of good.

	In the series Damiano by R.A. Lafferty (or something like that)
	the angel got too involved with Mr. X and lost his status.  He
	became human (augh!) a fate worse than death, mundanity.

	Turning regarding specials is quite clear I think: they leave.
	They are just too inherently strong to dissipate or do something
	good for you.  It requires powerful binding forces.

	Good is more picky than bad.  It's easy to be bad.

	Regarding upbringing and magic items.  I would have to say that
	a helm of opposite alignment would destroy a solar (MM II) or
	similar angel and demons as well.  A force that exists primarily
	for the spirit of good/evil would not be if it's reason for
	existence is changed.  As far as creatures?  Creatures have
	souls and Free Will.  Although there are certainly character
	traits in some cases like a well treated half-orc there might
	be a chance of his/her becoming a "relatively better than average"
	half-orc.

	My personal feeling about dragons is that they are big puppy
	dogs!  The whole idea of subdual is incorporated into the spirit
	of its upbringing.

	Moshe Eliovson
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