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From: pop@bunkerb.UUCP (Paul Pederson)
Newsgroups: net.games.frp
Subject: Re: Anything but D&D (*there are worse...*)
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Date: Fri, 17-May-85 14:17:14 EDT
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Posted: Fri May 17 14:17:14 1985
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I've played a few of the other systems in the past, but have yet to find
anything as grandoise as ol' AD&D.  You would think that other, newer
game systems would remedy the problems of the older systems, but that is
not always the case.

Take for instance Tunnels & Trolls.  At first glance it seems to be a
non-difficult, streamlined FRP system.  Not so many trivial rules to attempt
to keep track of all the time.  A big plus is that they have many
solo scenarios to be used with the game.  Our gaming group played it for
awhile, however, after playing the system for a while, it seemed to 
lack potential.

On the other hand, the ICE series by Iron crown has the inverse problem.
Sure, charts sell.  New variant rules sell.  The combat and magic systems
are more "realistic".  Our gaming group played this game also, but we soon
found out the combat system was too laborious and boring.  A few simple
fights could take a whole evening.....one of the players fell asleep
during one of the fights.

We've strayed away from AD&D on other occasions, but have yet to find 
anything which can replace it.  Sure, it's not perfect.  It has its
shortcomings -- as any other gaming system -- but most DMs have their
own variations of the rules anyway.

When we tire of medeval type role-playing, we try other games such as
Traveller, Chill, Super Heroes, Toon, etc..  They are all OK (I like
Traveller the best).  Anyone else out there play any of these games?