Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site asgb.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!asgb!kak From: kak@asgb.UUCP (Kris A. Kugel) Newsgroups: net.jokes.d Subject: Re: Dave Berry Copyrights Flame Message-ID: <681@asgb.UUCP> Date: Wed, 15-May-85 11:52:40 EDT Article-I.D.: asgb.681 Posted: Wed May 15 11:52:40 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 16-May-85 12:43:39 EDT Expires: Sat, 1-Jun-85 00:00:00 EDT References: <3026@dartvax.UUCP> <3031@dartvax.UUCP> <591@spp2.UUCP> Reply-To: kak@asgb.UUCP (Kris A. Kugel) Distribution: na Organization: Burroughs Corp. ASG, Boulder Colo. Lines: 21 Summary: Ethics of quoting I think I missed the original article that this discussion is about, so my remarks may be off-base, but here goes anyway... Any ethical concept needs intelligent application. As a goal, we want to reward creative effort. There was a lengthy quote from the book, "Red Sky in Morning", and I am MORE likely to reward the original author for his efforts (by buying the book) as a result of seeing the quote. Posting the quote may therefore end up benefiting the author rather than causing damage to him. We must not confuse goals with means. Creators should be credited or otherwise rewarded for their good efforts; posting excerpts from their work is often consistent with this goal. I also don't see limited numbers of jokes quoted out of books as damageing, unless the author has specificly created these jokes. (How many of you heard the "Foo bird" joke long before you saw it in print?) Most jokes cost only the time spent to read or listen to them, and for a compiler to suddenly "own" something that he got for free dosn't make sense.