Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2.fluke 9/24/84; site tpvax.fluke.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!fluke!inc From: inc@fluke.UUCP (Gary Benson) Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: Lock picks and like that. Message-ID: <604@tpvax.fluke.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-May-85 13:33:47 EDT Article-I.D.: tpvax.604 Posted: Fri May 10 13:33:47 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 14-May-85 07:13:09 EDT References: <358@linus.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 33 > ...... > why it is illegal to possess bicycle spokes filed down and bent > in certain configurations, coat hangers with same adjectives, and other > assorted items (better known as lockpicks)? > > Since when is the ability to do something the same as having done it? > > -the venn buddhist Good question. It reminds me of the day several weeks ago when I was driving along a boulevard and there was large crowd standing around this little head shop as the police were inside confiscating the hell out of the place. The newsfolks were there and everything. I've always wondered about the constitutionality of that sort of law. Why can my freind the pipesmoker go into any drugstore and pick up a wooden pipe, but I can't go into this shop and buy a smaller one? I'd be really interested in hearing a good justification by someone familiar with constitutional law about all this. I mean, the coat hanger is legal because it was given to me by the drycleaner. The grinder I can purchase at Sears for 40 bucks. Pliers from K-Mart. Now I put all these legal things together and make myself a nice little legal icepick. Is it true that if I use this device to open my own (legal) automobile I have committed a crime? Or if I'm a pipe smoker who doesn't want a pipe with a large bowl, am I committing a crime by entering a shop with the intent to buy a pipe with a bowl smaller than some set volume? The whole thing seems ridiculous. -- Gary Benson * John Fluke Mfg. Co. * PO Box C9090 * Everett WA * 98206 MS/232-E = = {allegra} {uw-beaver} !fluke!inc = = (206)356-5367 _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-ascii is our god and unix is his profit-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_