Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site wdl1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!hpda!fortune!wdl1!jbn From: jbn@wdl1.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: More fuel for the anti-Intel flames Message-ID: <409@wdl1.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-May-85 17:24:39 EDT Article-I.D.: wdl1.409 Posted: Fri May 10 17:24:39 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 13-May-85 00:48:55 EDT Sender: notes@wdl1.UUCP Organization: Ford Aerospace, Western Development Laboratories Lines: 48 Nf-ID: #R:brl-tgr:-1044100:wdl1:1400047:000:1607 Nf-From: wdl1!jbn May 10 14:07:00 1985 Anyone who thinks the flaming here is bad should see AMD's three page fold out ad on the inside front cover of Electronic Products for 1 MAY 85. I quote: ``Ready for Motorola's latest big Idea? [Turn page.] Ta-Da. [picture of a giant red tricycle with "68020" on the front]. They've just added The Granddaddy to their microprocessor family. It promises to give you twice what the 68000 gave you. Twice the headaches. It's MMU is every bit as good as the 68000's. Of course, you may have to wait to get it, but it comes with a special guarantee: You'll have to rewrite the operating system. "Even if you want to run a portable operating system? Like UNIX?" Yep. You'll still have to rewrite a substantial part of the OS. Oh, and don't forget to design in a wait state or two. No amount of cache can band-aid an off-chip MMU performance degradation. "What about peripherals?" Good question. Next question. "Is there any support for multi-user/multi-tasking?" Not really. The 68020 can use big, fat 32 bit words. But it's a bear to make it multi-task. (Which is sort of a pity, because the whole idea for the next generation of high-level processors is multi-tasking.)'' The ad then goes on to tout the iAPX286 and AMD's agreement with Intel that lets them manufacture it. The ad is from Advanced Micro Devices, 901 Thompson Place, Sunnyvale, CA, 94086, (408)-732-2400 The text in quotes above is extracted without ommission or change from the ad, except that the notes in square brackets are mine. Any commentary would be superfluous. John Nagle