Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watnot!watdcsu!rsellens From: rsellens@watdcsu.UUCP (Rick Sellens - Mech. Eng.) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: Software License Bill - California Message-ID: <1379@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-May-85 10:40:03 EDT Article-I.D.: watdcsu.1379 Posted: Thu May 16 10:40:03 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 16-May-85 23:39:40 EDT References: <858@sdcsvax.UUCP> <241@ucbcad.UUCP> <1835@watcgl.UUCP> Reply-To: rsellens@watdcsu.UUCP (Rick Sellens - Mech. Eng.) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 40 Summary: It strikes me that this bill is concerned with the enforcability of a license agreement, not it's contents. Software publishers currently have no convenient (and legal) way of administering license agreements. If this bill makes the shrink wrap license legally binding you will have three alternatives: 1. Buy the software just like before, but obey the license agreement. 2. Buy the software just like before and disregard the license agreement just like before. This will be no more dishonourable than breaking current agreements on the technicality that they are not enforcable. (Most oral contracts are unenforcable too, but honourable people honour them anyway.) 3. If the conditions of the license agreement are unacceptable to you, then do not buy the software. Write to the offending publisher and tell them that their product was your first choice, but that their license agreement was the pits, therefore they lost a sale. I feel that software publishers have the right to limit your use of their software by means of a license agreement. The mass market requires a reasonably streamlined method of licensing to keep admin- istrative costs down (and sticker prices too!). A shrink wrap license makes the contents of the license available to the purchaser *before* binding him to it, and therefore seems like a good vehicle to me. Don't get me wrong. I HATE most current license agreements for being too restrictive. I HATE copy protection. I feel that the only reasonable restrictions in a software license are "one machine at a time" and "we cannot be responsible for consequential damages". If we want to change things we have to attack the contents of those agreements, not the vehicle by which they are delivered. Rick Sellens UUCP: watmath!watdcsu!rsellens CSNET: rsellens%watdcsu@waterloo.csnet ARPA: rsellens%watdcsu%waterloo.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa