Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site cvl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!cvl!hsu From: hsu@cvl.UUCP (Dave Hsu) Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Re: Re: Banging noise on Apple //e,c disk dr Message-ID: <426@cvl.UUCP> Date: Sat, 11-May-85 01:53:43 EDT Article-I.D.: cvl.426 Posted: Sat May 11 01:53:43 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 13-May-85 00:12:08 EDT References: <573@spp2.UUCP> <4400001@hpvcla.UUCP> Organization: Computer Vision Lab, U. of Maryland, College Park Lines: 29 > > When DOS has trouble reading a diskette after a few > tries it "re-syncs" the head. It does this by pulling > the head up against a mechanical stop. Because the > head motion is an open loop control system (etc.) it > hits the stop several times causing the banging. The > underlying cause is that the head alignment is > different on the drive that made the Beagle Bros. disk > and your disk. > > Dave Lowe Noticing the //e in the top...is this unit equipped with a Duodisk? Or did you buy the single disks? It seems that the newer mechanisms do occasionally need to be realigned, while the older ones with the Shugart guts had a reputation for never needing service aside from an occasional speed-calibration and head cleaning. Just a small(?) note: the Apple is not "re-syncing" the drive. It is trying to restore track position. Most micros do this, but some do not do a very good job of it. Commodore 1540 and 1541 drives are notorious for losing alignment because their stops are adjustable, and the setscrews come lose after a few minutes of use due to heat build-up in the under-ventilated cases. Running the original copy program on protected disks and leaving to grab some food caused many machines to be returned for service at the computer store I used to work at. Re-syncing is accomplished by waiting until the drive reads a self-sync byte, no more than a long string of ones. -dave