Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site plus5.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!plus5!eric From: eric@plus5.UUCP (Eric W. Kiebler) Newsgroups: net.micro.att Subject: 7300 Tidbits and questions Message-ID: <739@plus5.UUCP> Date: Sun, 12-May-85 23:39:42 EDT Article-I.D.: plus5.739 Posted: Sun May 12 23:39:42 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 17-May-85 03:48:19 EDT Organization: Plus Five Computer Services, St. Louis Lines: 59 Keywords: safari I have had a chance to play with the 7300 and plan to get one. Here is what I have learned (or think I know...) * Don't expect anything good from ATT sales people for about 6 months. AT&T is trying very hard to improve their sales and sales support organizations, but it takes time. Many of the people that have been out selling UNIX are retreaded voice salesfolk, and they just don't have the data area under their belt yet. This is not an excuse, it is a reason. (I don't work for ATT and have no vested interests.) * Don't buy a 7300 with less than a MB, period. * It is possible to get expansion units from third party people that are quite reasonable. There is at least one vendor that has a 40MB drive in a 7300 and plans are in the works for interfacing the brand-new optical disks. * The interface specs are semi-secret and appear to be going only to certified VARS, and even then only when pressure is applied. * The machine is not fast and not slow. The graphics are not stellar, but they work. It really does run UNIX SVR2 and it does have virtual memory that appears to work. This is a *BIG* plus over the other machines I have looked at. The next closest thing is the U! and the ISI/NBI S!, and they are much more expensive. * The C-compiler that is currently being delivered DOES NOT support flexnames. THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM, AT&T!!! The machine is virtual -- any reason we can't have a few extra chars on our variable names? The LPI compiler also seems to be a compiler of few characters. I didn't have enough time to see if the problem was with the compiler or just the linker, but nm seemed to think that vars were teeny-weeny. * I did not see a uucp out there. * Nobody is quite sure which programs are really packaged with the various unix segments they offer. Especially nebulous is the Electronic Mail system. I assume that this is some neat mailer as opposed to mailx or /bin/mail or cat. THE BOTTOM LINE It has a 68K instead of a braindamaged 80286, the price is about the same as an AT, and it runs real UNIX, and it performs well enough for most UNIX applications IN COMPARISON TO THE COMPETITION. If I had $18K for a MicroVaxII then there would be no contest (they want $26K for a VaxStation II which is about the same machine, looking from the outside, as a safari). Most importantly, it has the name ATT on it, and people are almost as willing to buy from them as they are IBM. eric -- ..!ihnp4!wucs!plus5!eric ..!ihnp4!plus5!eric (314) 725-9492