Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watmum.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watnot!watmum!cdshaw From: cdshaw@watmum.UUCP (Chris Shaw) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Company vs Employee Software rights Message-ID: <122@watmum.UUCP> Date: Mon, 13-May-85 16:17:49 EDT Article-I.D.: watmum.122 Posted: Mon May 13 16:17:49 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 14-May-85 00:07:09 EDT Reply-To: cdshaw@watmum.UUCP (Chris Shaw) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 29 **THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE.. just what I remember** In cases where there is an "agreement" to limit one's rights in some form or other, if there is a statute in effect that guarantees that right, then the agreement is to no binding legal effect. Thus.. an agreement to be someone's slave is not a binding document. The obvious thing to do, then, is to try to have legislation enacted to ensure the rights of home hackers on home machines, notwithstanding any agreements with your employer about your employer's "intellectual rights". The other side to this is the situation where a nondisclosure agreement is desired by the company because of some trade secret or another that you would learn during employment. You could easily use the secret yourself by quitting and starting your own company (or sell it to the Russians). In this case, a company is (in some sense) within it rights to get after you because of "intellectual robbery". In the DEC example cited in previous postings, DEC is merely protecting itself in the easiest way; by preventing any and all of its employees from doing anything. DEC is only really guilty of using too large a scope in its agreement. What this all means is that we need a much better definition of "intellectual property", and some clear thinking is needed to make sure that no one's rights are damaged. Chris Shaw watmath!watmum!cdshaw University of Waterloo