Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site linus.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!cv From: cv@linus.UUCP (Chris J. Valas) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Alice anyone? Message-ID: <381@linus.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-May-85 13:54:55 EDT Article-I.D.: linus.381 Posted: Fri May 17 13:54:55 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 19-May-85 04:20:54 EDT References: <31700020@ISM780.UUCP> <127@epicen.UUCP> Reply-To: cv@linus.UUCP (Chris J. Valas) Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA Lines: 36 -=- In article <127@epicen.UUCP> jbuck@epicen.UUCP (Joe Buck) writes: [Regarding the Velvet Underground:] >Of course, Bowie stole a lot from them as well. Other blatent imitators: >Iggy Pop and Dream Syndicate. > etc. > >Forget the imitation. Get the real thing. >-- >Joe Buck Entropic Processing, Inc. (epi) > {allegra,decwrl,hplabs,ucbvax,gatech,ihnp4}!twg!t12tst!epicen!jbuck It seems to me that while most *everyone* in post-60's rock owes the Velvets a considerable debt, Iggy (especially with the Stooges) is most definitely 'the real thing.' We are talking about the original Motor City Madman here. Go back and listen to the Stooges debut album (with '1969'), _Fun House_ and _Raw Power_. Sure, Iggy experimented with what the Velvets were doing, but "blatant" imitation is an inaccurate decription of what was really cross-fertilization, a phenomenon essential to a thriving rock underground. The Velvet's contribution to that underground should not be allowed to sit idle. Dream Syndicate, I'll grant you, are derivative of the Velvets; still, theirs is one of the fresher sounds I've heard in a while. I'm just glad to see American rock getting back on track again after the relative dark ages of the mid-to-late 70's. Stadiums are for football. Even Dylan's got his head together again (sort of). Chris J. Valas {decvax,utzoo,philabs,security,allegra,genrad}!linus!cv -=- "I've made shoes for everyone, even you, but I still go barefoot."