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From: hua@cmu-cs-edu1.ARPA (Ernest Hua)
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Subject: Of all the things, Ken!  TAKE TWO.
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Date: Tue, 7-May-85 06:02:14 EDT
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Posted: Tue May  7 06:02:14 1985
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> > { from: Ken Arndt in a previous article }
> >
> > Look, EVOLUTION IS A THEORY ABOUT A PROCESS
> > THAT HAPPENED LONG, LONG AGO AND FAR, FAR AWAY AND NOBODY EVER SAW IT, AND
> > IT HAPPENED, WE SPECULATE, UNDER PROCESSES NOT NOW HAPPENING - 'life'
> > arising from non-live in the great cosmic Cambell's soup kitchen.

I claimed that this statement is irresponsibly inaccurate, to say the least.

> { from: Ken Arndt in response }
>
> If you READ what I wrote you will see that I am refering to 'life arising
> from non-live', A PROCESS THAT NO ONE SAYS IS HAPPINING TODAY!!!!!!  And
> that everyone (except you evidently) says happened under processes that
> were the result of conditions that DO NOT exist today because the earth
> was a different place physically.  I was NOT, clearly, talking about the
> claim that species, etc., evolution does not happen today although we could
> indeed talk about that.
> 
> WHO doesn't understand evolution????

Obviously YOU.  Please read your quote which you provided a second time,
and which I took the liberty of requoting just for your eyes.  You said
that "evolution is a theory about a process that happened long, long ago
and far, far away and nobody ever saw it, and it happened, we speculate,
under processes not now happening".  No, I did not misunderstand you;
you have no idea what you are writing.  Evolution is not a theory about
a process "that happened long, long ago and far, far away ... (repeat the
quote again here)".  Evolution is a view of the natural flow of things,
which is assumed to always have happened and always will.  Thus no silly
divine intervention could ever be accounted for.  Gandalf might have
created the universe yesterday and made it look like it was billions of
years old.  But if that was the case, science would still have to say
that the universe was billions of years old, even though it was created
yesterday.  By the way, where did I say that the evolution of life forms
did not occur under different sets of conditions than today?  Me thinks
you have reading problems and then some.

> I accept your humble apology for misreading, misunderstanding, and not
> knowing what you were talking about.

"I f**t in your general direction..."  -  Monty Python, "Holy Grail"
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Live long and prosper.
Keebler { hua@cmu-cs-gandalf.arpa }