Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!csd2!dimitrov From: dimitrov@csd2.UUCP (Isaac Dimitrovsky) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Order Message-ID: <3570022@csd2.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-May-85 12:05:00 EDT Article-I.D.: csd2.3570022 Posted: Fri May 10 12:05:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 12-May-85 01:35:06 EDT Organization: New York University Lines: 20 [] Dan Boskovich writes: > There are systems which do manifest an increasing degree of comlexity. > These are open systems and draw on external sources of energy. However, > merely having an open system and energy available from the sun does > not automatically generate higher order in that system . . . > . . . there are certain conditions which must be satisfied > to cause any finite system to advance to a higher degree of order. > > No system shows an increasing order unless it also possesses a specific > program to direct its growth and a complex mechanism to convert the > suns energy into specific work. Well, I don't want to see Webster's definition for `program', so I will refrain from asking you to define it rigorously. Instead let me just ask, who or what programs the formation of snowflakes? Isaac Dimitrovsky