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From: dimitrov@csd2.UUCP (Isaac Dimitrovsky)
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Subject: Re: Entropy - the increasing unavailability of evidence for Evolution.
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Date: Sat, 11-May-85 10:17:00 EDT
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Dan Boskovich writes:
> And so I must re-emphasize!
>
>> There are systems which do manifest an increasing degree of comlexity.
>> These are open systems and draw on external sources of energy. However,
>> merely having an open system and energy available from the sun does
>> not automatically generate higher order in that system.
>
>> No system shows an increasing order unless it also possesses a specific
>> program to direct its growth and a complex mechanism to convert the
>> suns energy into specific work.

And so I must reiterate!

Snowflakes! Snowflakes! Snowflakes!

Also, if you are interested in this stuff, I once took a mathematical
biology class (not on evolution, by the way) where we were given
several examples of so-called symmetry breaking reactions,
in which a well-mixed batch of several chemicals will naturally
`break' the symmetry of the mixture and separate into patterns.
There were several different types shown, including one in which
there was a cyclic, moving pattern. I don't know if this is relevant
to the discussion, but it certainly seemed neat at the time.
If anyone is interested, I can try to dig up references for these,
or even to give the instructions for producing such a reaction.

Isaac Dimitrovsky