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From: brian@digi-g.UUCP (Merlyn Leroy)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: in Order to Order the Order
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Date: Sun, 12-May-85 23:00:43 EDT
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Posted: Sun May 12 23:00:43 1985
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Summary: 

Paul DuBois (posting for Ray Miller) writes:
>
>...Evolutionists
>still have not demonstrated how, theoretically, codes capable of carrying
>information (such as the DNA program) can arise spontaneously.  Indeed, every-
>thing we know indicates that they will degenerate, not improve, with time and
>mutations to the code sequences....

    There is the Miller experiment, which attempted to recreated the
young Earth environment, ran an energy source through it (a spark gap), and
ended up with amino acids, some fairly long, in only two weeks.
    It was rather bizarre listening to Duane Gish (of creationist fame) explain
this away during a lecture of his, especially since:
1) he said evolution contradicts the 2nd law of thermodynamics (zzzz...)
2) he "amended" the second law of thermodynamics to allow an increase in com-
plexity (decrease in local entropy) by adding totally arbitrary "amendments":
    a) needs outside energy source [HINT: this is the only one needed]
    b) this energy needs to be useable, not destructive
    c) needs something that can "use" it (i.e. plants for sunlight)
    d) someotherconditionIcan'tremember
3) after this, he talked about the Miller experiment, COMPLETELY IGNORING
how it produced "order from disorder" without using any of his kludgy
"amendments" to the 2nd law (except for the neccessary one, that of an
outside energy source).

    Now, when a prominent creationist can't even present a prepared
lecture without contradicting himself...

Merlyn Leroy
"Creationism is false, THEREFORE evolution is true!"  :-)