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From: gordon@uw-june (Gordon Davisson)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: Response to flames
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Date: Tue, 14-May-85 17:45:02 EDT
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Posted: Tue May 14 17:45:02 1985
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>>[Dan, I think]
>>   No system shows an increasing order unless it also possesses a specific
>>   program to direct its growth and a complex mechanism to convert the
>>   suns energy into specific work.

> [Ralph Hartley]
>   [...] it only takes ONE example to prove your statement wrong.
>
> A laser is such an example.  (There are others, but only one is
> required.) Here you have a disordered gas and a disordered source of
> energy.  The result, however, is the emision of VERY orderd light.
>
> You may try to argue that a laser is an artificial object and therefore
> has a hidden plan, but not all lasers are artificial. Natural lasers
> have been discovered in which interstelar gas produces coherent light.

But you forget: the universe was created about 6,000 years ago, and the
light which appears to be coming from distant objects was actually created
in transit, so that humans would be able to see God's greatness.  Since
these natural lasers don't really exist, they don't make a very good
counterexample.

Even if they *did* exist, these lasers would be just more proof for
creation, since they obviously show design.

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