Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 13) Message-ID: <448@psivax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 13-May-85 16:06:21 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.448 Posted: Mon May 13 16:06:21 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 16-May-85 20:19:59 EDT References: <350@iham1.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley friesen) Distribution: net Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 33 In article <350@iham1.UUCP> rck@iham1.UUCP (Ron Kukuk) writes: > > C. NEW RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR LIFE ARE SO > COMPLEX THAT CHANCE AND EVEN BILLIONS OF YEARS CANNOT EXPLAIN > IT. > > 25. If the earth, early in its alleged evolution, HAD OXYGEN > in its atmosphere, the chemicals needed for life would > have been removed by oxidation. But if there had been NO > OXYGEN, then there would have been no ozone in the upper > atmosphere. Without this ozone life would be quickly > destroyed by the sun's ultraviolet radiation [a,b]. The > only way for both ozone and life to be here is for both to > come into existence simultaneously. In other words, > Creation! > > a) Duane T. Gish, SPECULATIONS AND EXPERIMENTS RELATED TO > THEORIES ON THE ORIGIN OF LIFE, ICR Technical > Monograph No.1 (El Cajon, CA: Institute for Creation > Research, 1972). This contradicts the experimental results I am familiar with. The Urey experiments and the subsequent embelishments of it in fact show that UV *promotes* the formation of organic compounds. So in fact ozone is not in any way necessary for life. Dr. Gish simply does not know what he is talking about here, or more likely he has chosen to ignore a large body of research which contradicts his premises. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen