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From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag)
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Subject: Re: Jai Alai (contradictions, anyone?)
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Date: Mon, 20-May-85 14:54:33 EDT
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Paul Dubois quoting some reliable sounding source:
> 
> "Although extinct for more than 300 million years, their fossil remains
> indicate that in one respect, the trilobites may have been superior to
> current living animals.  They had, in principle, perfect vision:  They
> possessed the most sophisticated eye lenses ever produced by nature."
> 
     Now just hold on here for a minute.  When we asked y'all why you were
always using arguments against evolution instead of producing evidence which
support creationism, you said it was because there were no other reasonable
alternative theories, so debunking evolution was the same as advancing 
creationism.  Well, I'm not sure I buy that 'no other reasonable alternative'
stuff, but suppose I do, just for the sake of argument.
     If this is the framework of your case for creationism, it stands to
reason that in debunking evolution *YOU CANNOT USE ARGUMENTS WHICH DIRECTLY
OR IMPLICITLY CONTRADICT YOUR MODEL OF CREATIONISM*.  Sorry for yelling there,
but I wanted to get your attention.  There are a few variations of the 
creationist models which aren't contradicted by 300 million year old tribolite
fossils, of course, but the one issued by the ICR (which Paul said he agreed
with, I think. (correct me if I'm wrong on that, Paul.)) specifically included
the 'young earth' bit.  
     One last time for clarity: If you're trying to support creationism by
debunking evolution, you can't use evidence which also debunks creationism.
Get it?
-- 
Jeff Sonntag
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