Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ames.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!ames!barry From: barry@ames.UUCP (Kenn Barry) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Re: To Laura: outlook on life and free will Message-ID: <980@ames.UUCP> Date: Sat, 11-May-85 11:52:38 EDT Article-I.D.: ames.980 Posted: Sat May 11 11:52:38 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 13-May-85 00:35:48 EDT References: <362@aesat.UUCP> <5272@utzoo.UUCP> <734@pyuxd.UUCP> <5312@utzoo.UUCP> <766@pyuxd.UUCP> <5364@utzoo.UUCP> Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 29 > I never said treating time like a dimension was science fiction. I said >that treating time as a *spatial* dimension was science fiction. I don't >think there is *any* reason to believe that "time is 'spacelike'" OR that >"space is 'timelike'" so you won't get any disagreement from me there. > > Maybe I'd better clarify what I mean. Length, depth, and height are spatial >dimensions. They are, for all intents and purposes, the same. They are all >measured with the same instruments and calculated in the same units. Time, >on the other hand, can only be measured by its effects (a gear turning in a >clock, a candle burning down, radioactive decay, or whatever) and has its >own units. Things move through 3-space in all different directions. Things >"travel through time" in one direction only. I could go on, but I think >you get the picture. "Timelike space" and "spacelike time" are not only found in science fiction. Current physical theory suggests that the time and space dimensions really do swap roles in a black hole; movement through space becomes unidirectional and constant velocity, while movement through time is freed up. One of the ways of describing an event horizon is to say that it's a boundary at which space and time axes get swapped around. Apologies to the real physicists out there for this "pop physics" description, but I think it gives the general idea. If not, I'm sure you'll let me know :-). - From the Crow's Nest - Kenn Barry NASA-Ames Research Center Moffett Field, CA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- USENET: {ihnp4,vortex,dual,hao,menlo70,hplabs}!ames!barry