Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!csd2!schwrtze From: schwrtze@csd2.UUCP (Eric Schwartz group) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: ethics, values, and valuers Message-ID: <3600002@csd2.UUCP> Date: Mon, 13-May-85 17:53:00 EDT Article-I.D.: csd2.3600002 Posted: Mon May 13 17:53:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 16-May-85 04:16:27 EDT References: <178@frog.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 19 The sample passage in the base note concludes: A. "If you say that no values exist independent of the valuer, then you say that there is no objective code of ... ethics." The conclusion is objected to: B. "The observer of the valuer (at least in this case) is a valuer (of a specific kind) as well." apparently on the grounds the conclusion does not follow. If it were true that: "If Z is a valuer then Z is also a value", then B. would follow. However, since the distinction between valuers and values is relevant, A. follows. Bill Light