Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 8/28/84; site lll-crg.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!gymble!lll-crg!brooks From: brooks@lll-crg.ARPA (Eugene D. Brooks III) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Re: Re: Bell's Inequality Message-ID: <590@lll-crg.ARPA> Date: Fri, 17-May-85 21:32:46 EDT Article-I.D.: lll-crg.590 Posted: Fri May 17 21:32:46 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 19-May-85 05:57:13 EDT References: <590@astrovax.UUCP> <90@utastro.UUCP> <589@lll-crg.ARPA> <10766@brl-tgr.ARPA> Distribution: net Organization: Lawrence Livermore Labs, CRG group Lines: 31 > > What problem? Wavefunction collapse is part of the theory > > of measurement. The theory works. > > (1) Where can we find a clear exposition of this "theory of measurement"? Just about any serious book on QM will explain the details, the topic can't be studied lightly however and requires substatial mathemtical sophistication. See: Quantum Mechanics, by Eugen Merzbacher, Look up Measurement of observables in the index, pp 289-293 is useful. See: E. P. Wigner, Am. J. Phys, 31, 6(1963) for a review article on the topic See: Quantum Mechanics, by Albert Messiah, Look up Measurement in the index I can also dig up some papers describing Quantum NonDemolition Measurement that are relatively recent works dealing with gravity wave detectors etc where the object is to measure without disturbing the state being measured and the constraints that must be placed on the measuring device etc I you want to read them. Measurement theory in QM is well developed but is not well grasped by the physics community in general. > (2) I know some computer programs that also appear to work but that in > reality are full of bugs. Apparent working is not good enough! If you know that a program has a bug, and you can demonstrate it, then the program does not appear to work. Of course the program works with some data and your analogy to physics is a rather good one. In the case of QM and the theory of measurement lets demonstrate the bug before you claim that the theory is broken. Claiming that the theory is not intuitive or asthetic is not good enough.