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From: li63sfh@sdcc7.UUCP (Philip Kao)
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Subject: Re: uc divestment
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Date: Thu, 9-May-85 01:26:25 EDT
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In article <578@spp2.UUCP> jhull@spp2.UUCP (Jeff Hull) writes:
>In article <2054@sdcc6.UUCP> ix913@sdcc6.UUCP (Q Van Brink) writes:
>>
>>				WHY DISINVEST?
>>
>>South Africa is a country with twenty million Africans (72% of the
>>population), four and a half million Whites (16%), three million
>>Coloureds (9%)and 800,000 Asians (3%).  Yet, the Coloureds andAsians
>>have only minimal civil right and the 72% African majority are
>>stripped of all basic Human rights.  They cannot vote, buy or sell
>>land, live or work where they choose, or move about freely in their
>>own country.  Only the Whites enjoy full rights of citizenship.
>>This is apartheid.
>
>QvB thus implies that the Whites, Coloureds, & Asians are foreigners
>in South Africa.  At what point does a person cease being a foreigner?
>How many generations does it take?  According to an Encyclopaedia
>Brittanica (Oh, God, they're the enemy aren't they?  Dare I trust them
>to be accurate? :-), the present black population of South Africa is
>just as foreign to the region as are the other groups.

Jeff, you seem to be a bit sarcastic and maybe a little bit
too literal here.
probably Q Van Brink was implying that whites, coloureds, and asians
are the minority groups in south africa.  i believe that zenophobia
classifies foreigners as minorities.

>>In order to demonstrate our resolve, the members of the Coalition for
>>a Free South Africa have been sitting in at the Winnie Mandela
>>Library and holding teach-ins and debates to educate the campus and
>>community at large.  
>I challenge this statement.  You are not trying to educate anybody.
>You are trying to sway people to your point of view, which is a
>totally different thing.  If you were truly convinced of the
>correctness of your position, you would be content to provide all the
>facts regarding the situation & let others make their own decisions
>rather than try to propagandize us.

if teach-ins are swaying people's opinion, then what are debates?
aren't we trying to inform people of news in south africa ???
maybe we should call them forums, since that is really what they
are.
how do you suggest we spread this knowledge ???  maybe by talking
to a bunch of people gathered in a room, huh ??? well that sounds
like a teach-in to me.

>Why not undertake a constructive action for a change?

okay we're all ears.

dragon-pup