Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site bunker.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!ittvax!bunker!garys From: garys@bunker.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: Re: What is "capitalism"? Message-ID: <834@bunker.UUCP> Date: Wed, 8-May-85 10:17:39 EDT Article-I.D.: bunker.834 Posted: Wed May 8 10:17:39 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 10-May-85 21:58:00 EDT References: <441@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <1831@topaz.ARPA> <828@bunker.UUCP> <1904@topaz.ARPA> Organization: Bunker Ramo, Trumbull Ct Lines: 30 > In article <828@bunker.UUCP> garys@bunker.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson) writes: > (quoting me) > >> The ultimate capitalistic society would be one in which there were no > >> laborers; everyone makes his or her living by the income of their holdings. > >> This may be physically possible in a few decades. > > > >You make it sound like you expect wealth to materialize out > >of thin air. So everyone is living off the interest or dividends > >their wealth provides ... > >Gary Samuelson > As usual, subtlety falls flat on the net. Rather than my inability to understand your "subtlety," consider the possibility that the problem might be your obscurity. > I thought it was obvious I was referring to automation. > --JoSH "Holdings" usually refers to either land or securities (I looked it up, just to be sure), not machinery. But the change doesn't help. There will still be laborers (machine operators), unless you think that the machines will be able to read minds (I hope not -- meaning I hope that machines will not be able to do that). Even supposing that literally everything can be automated, how will it come about that everyone will own enough machinery to provide a living? In particular, how will a newborn acquire money making machinery? Gary Samuelson