Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site frog.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!frog!tdh From: tdh@frog.UUCP (T. Dave Hudson) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory,net.philosophy Subject: ethics, values, and valuers Message-ID: <178@frog.UUCP> Date: Sat, 11-May-85 19:28:12 EDT Article-I.D.: frog.178 Posted: Sat May 11 19:28:12 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 14-May-85 07:42:13 EDT Reply-To: frog!tdh Organization: Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA Lines: 16 Xref: linus net.politics.theory:709 net.philosophy:1552 Migrating into net.philosophy (random glitch willing): >From: mck@ratex.UUCP (Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan) >When you refer to 'An ethically subjective approach to >values', I initially take that to entail a notion that values >have no existence EXCEPT to the valuer. What you may mean to say is that >values do not have an existence INDEPENDENT of the valuer. [...] >If you >say that no values exist independent of the valuer, then you say that there >is no objective code of priorities -- no objective code of ethics. (The adverb "ethically" would have been misleading if I had intended the first interpretation.) The conclusion is a non sequitur; the observer of the valuer (at least in this case) is a valuer (of a specific kind) as well. David Hudson